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Does any record of Morden Terrace School remain?

1 Jul

Despite my best efforts I have struggled to find any additional information on the school that my grandfather attended in the London Borough of Greenwich. The amount of information that has survived about this school seems to be minimal to say the least.

I’ve paid a visit to the Greenwich Heritage Centre, and despite the best efforts of the very helpful lady there, we were unable to find out much more. At least I have now confirmed that it did exist and have a map which shows where it was.

Morden Terrace School was on the north side of Albion Hill at the junction of Lewisham Road, in the borough of Greenwich. Having been destroyed by bombing during the Second World War, it appears that the site is now occupied by a modern school, Morden Mount Primary School, and Albion Hill has only partially survived as Quince Road.

I have been searching through the catalogues for the London Metropolitan Archives, and the only thing they seem to have is a set of plans for the school. I am sure they are very interesting, but what I really need to find out is whether there are any records of the pupils.

It does feature in directories of the area, but they provide virtually no more information, they don’t even mention who was the headmaster. There is no suggestion that it was a boarding school, the evidence is not conclusive, but this suggests that my grandfather was living in the area with someone.

I still need to spend some more time searching for the school records, just in case they have ended up somewhere else, or under another name. However it looks like I need to be trying to find a relation that spent some time in Greenwich, with whom my grandfather was living.

That is going to a rather large task, but I am wondering if I might have a sneaky short cut. My grandfather’s admission record for his time at school in Sussex notes that he left on the 2nd November 1917 with the reason being that he "went to London". Is there anyone else in that admission register that left at the same time to go to London?

Ancestry.co.uk extend their London Parish Records Collection to include Non-Conformist Records

26 May

Ancestry.co.uk have today extended their London Parish Records Collection with the addition of approximately 224,000 names of non-conformists worshippers from the collections of the London Metropolitan Archives.

The London Non-Conformist Registers collection includes baptism, marriage and burial registers from a large number of churches of various denominations, and dating from 1694 to 1921. Obviously not every church will have records covering the entire date range, so always check that the period you are interested in is covered.

So if your ancestors were Presbyterians, Congregationalists, Baptists, Quakers, Methodists and Unitarians and they lived in the capital, then there is a good chance you will find their records here. In some cases this might be the only record, or in some cases you might be able to avoid the cost of a marriage certificate by finding the marriage entry in the register.

Personally although I have a few non-conformists in my tree, it doesn’t look like any of them made their way to London and it doesn’t look like any of my London ancestors were non-conformists either. Never mind, you can’t win them all. I hope you have better luck than me.

18 million parish records from Greater London parishes published today on Ancestry.co.uk

16 Sep

This a truly remarkable collection, 18 million parish records dating from 1538 to 1980 from over a 1000 Greater London parishes have today been published on Ancestry.co.uk.

Part of the London Historical Records, 1500s-1900s collection published in partnership with London Metropolitan Archives and the Guildhall Library Manuscripts, this is really going to be a great asset to family history research. I can see that these indexed images are going to open up so much new information that was previously hidden within the sprawling mass that was/is London.

Speaking from personal experience I know how easy it is to lose people in London, but my first search in the new collection turned up three of the six missing baptisms for children of my 3x great grandfather Thomas KINGHORN, including the elusive Wybrants KINGHORN (recorded here as Webrens).

Given time I will no doubt be able to take this further and find the other three baptisms and I am sure marriages and burials will also follow. For now I have not only baptism dates, but birth dates and two new addresses (both in Upper Charlton Street, St Mary-le-bone) for the KINGHORN family.

Just like London itself I can see it is going to take some time to find my way around, and I think I could quite easily get lost in this collection for days on end.

LONDON: Disappointment at the London Metropolitan Archives

14 Jun
London Metropolitan Archives

London Metropolitan Archives

I probably wasn’t at the London Metropolitan Archives (LMA) for much more than three-quarters of an hour, and came away empty handed.

It wasn’t my first visit to the LMA, but it had probably been four or five years since my one and only previous visit. I knew they had refurbished the place since my previous visit, so everything had moved around, although it wasn’t hard to find out where things were.

I am not sure about the new look of the LMA, it is bright (very white) and spacious, but it felt very sterile and it certainly didn’t feel like it was a place that contained over 900 years of London history.

I checked some microfilm, but the baptism for Edward GASSON was not where I was expecting to find it. Of course there could be many reasons for this, but ultimately I was only trying to get this information to avoid ordering a birth certificate, so it looks like I shall have to go ahead and order that certificate if I want to find out where his parents were living in Middlesex, whilst his father was briefly serving in the Metropolitan Police.

Somewhat disappointed I left the LMA, and made my way the short distance up Farringdon Road to Mount Pleasant Sorting Office, around the back of this massive building is the British Postal Museum and Archives, where I was hoping to have more luck.

LONDON: coincidence on the train and chaos on the tube

13 Jun

Today was a day of mixed fortunes, ultimately I didn’t find out anything that I could actually add to my family tree, but it was a good day nevertheless.

The train journey up to London was a little different from normal, and not just because everything went according to plan. Like the majority of other British train travellers I wouldn’t normally talk to any of the other passengers, but when the young woman who came and sat in the seat opposite took out a bundle of papers, which included some census returns, I knew I just had to saw hello.

We chatted about our family histories and research until she left the train at Clapham Junction, heading for the Surrey History Centre at Woking. It was a real pleasure to meet and chat with a fellow genealogist, and it made the journey just fly by.

Getting to the London Metropolitan Archives (LMA) proved somewhat awkward. I am sure that when I used the journey planner on the Transport for London website yesterday there was no hint of a problem, but today when I reached Victoria Underground station it was just the opposite.

There was no Victoria line service (which was how I was going to get across London) so I took the Circle line instead and a section of that was closed as well. The train terminated at Moorgate, two stations short of Farringdon where I wanted to be!

Not being frightened of a bit of walking (but not really knowing where to go) I decided to give up on the Underground and public transport in general and walk the rest of the way.

The streets were surprisingly quiet and I headed of in the general direction of the Museum of London and the Barbican, which I knew were in the right direction. Although I did have my London A-Z in my rucksack I didn’t need to use it until after I had found the Barbican Underground station, when I wanted to check which was the quickest route to take.

It didn’t take long to get to Farringdon Underground station, and I remembered the route from there to the LMA from my last visit. Straight up Farringdon Road, past the Sushi bar which I remembered from last time, but I am sure that the topless bar a few doors along wasn’t there last time. I’m sure I would have remembered that!

I suppose it took me twice as long (about an hour) to get across London than I had been expecting, but I can’t really complain. Much of the London Underground is in serious need of investment and improvement, I only hope it is worth all the hassle in the end.

Heading up to London again

12 Jun

Tomorrow I venture up to London again, and I have a long list of things to find out, but I realise I am not going to fit it all in, so I am going to have to be selective about what I want to achieve.

I was hoping to get up to London early so I could visit Soho and get some photos of  the streets where Thomas KINGHORN lived, before it gets too busy. I don’t think I am going to have the time for that, because I want to take advantage of two archives that are not open every Saturday, but are this weekend.

Firstly I want to make brief a visit to the London Metropolitan Archives to look for a baptism for Edward GASSON (son of my 3x great grandparents) in the parish of Edmonton, Middlesex. Possibly also any rate books which might identify the exact location where they were living.

Secondly, I plan to head to the British Postal Museum and Archive (BPMA)  and start digging for information on Thomas KINGHORN. This could be tricky, as I have very little hard evidence to go on, so I may well spend several hours searching to no avail. I do have a few ideas for where to start so it may not be a total loss.

If I do have any time left over I will probably head for the London Family History Centre again, and try and get some more answers on Henry WRIGHT and his family.

It may also be worth me popping into the Society of Genealogist’s Library before heading to the BPMA, and having a look at the Carlisle monumental inscriptions as they may provide so more data on Thomas KINGHORN.

I am worn out just thinking about it (or is that because I walked home again tonight?), I shall probably be asleep on the train before it even leaves London for home!

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