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Postcards from Australia: Luck At Last

2 Sep

Here is another of the postcards sent by William Joseph Henry BATEMAN and his family from Australia back to his parents in England. This one was written to William’s mother Dorothy Isabella BATEMAN on the 26th September 1907 by his wife Annie.

Luck at Last

Once again I know nothing about the publisher or the artist, but like the other ones I have written about, I do like the image. I also love the way that so much information was crammed onto the back of the card, not even space for a stamp on this one.

Luck at Last (reverse)

These messages give a wonderful insight into their life in Australia, and an insight into Annie’s personality, she has a wonderful style of writing and a subtle sense of humour (and a dislike of punctuation).

The main message reads “Just a line to let you know we are all in the best of health and that we have moved again you will think it must be cheaper to shift than pay rent but we have a much better house and 1/6 a week cheaper and there was only a fence between us and the land-lady and she was a fair old tander but only one street away from where we were our address now is :- Esplanade Place Port Melb’e no number but but [sic] there are only five houses in the street. hope all are well Will has gone back to work”

The two shorter messages are just as interesting, “I am going over to Geelong tomorrow for three days I have to go down to draw the interest on Siddies’ money. I am taking the two children with me”. This is referring to Annie’s son from her first marriage, Sidney Ambrose BULL, presumably there was some sort of legacy left by his late father that interest was being paid on.

The second even shorter message, “baby is not walking yet I think he feels safer on the the floor.” is referring to William Thomas Henry BATEMAN, Annie and William’s first child who would have been a few days away from his first birthday when this card was sent.

There is one word that puzzles me, tander, I presume this is an Australian slang word, but have been unable to find a definition for it. From the context of the message I have taken it to mean someone who is an interfering busy-body, but perhaps someone more knowledgeable would like to provide me with a more accurate definition.

Postcards from Australia: Dead Beat

25 Aug

Here is another postcard sent back home from Australia by William Joseph Henry BATEMAN. I know nothing about the artist or publisher of this card (although I do like the picture), and the message on the back is more important than the picture on the front.

Dead Beat

As you can see from the date this one was written at the same time as the one I showed you a couple of weeks ago. Presumably sent in the same envelope to save postage. This one was sent to William’s sister May (or Dorothy May) BATEMAN.

Dead Beat (reverse)

Dorothy May BATEMAN was my great-grandmother and would have been about 18 years old at the time. It is interesting to note that she is not at the same address as her parents, presumably she was in domestic service in Brighton, Sussex at the time. It would be interesting to find out who else was also living at 45 Preston Grove in 1907.

The mention of “one of little Willie photo’s” is referring to William Joseph Henry’s first son William Thomas Henry BATEMAN who would have been almost eight months old when this card was written. I wonder what the reason was for Annie (his wife) being “not up to much”?

Postcards from Australia: A Fair Prospect

12 Aug

Unlike most of the postcards I feature on my blog this one has a direct family connection, the message on the back is of more interest to me than the picture on the front and it is not actually part of my postcard collection.

A Fair Prospect

I know virtually nothing about the postcard itself, other than what is printed on the front. The artist is J. Hutchings and it is part of the Australian Series. The message on the back is dated 28th May 1907, but it was presumably sent in an envelope because there is no stamp and the left hand side has been trimmed.

A Fair Prospect (reverse)

The card was sent to my 2x great-grandparents Henry and Dorothy Isabella BATEMAN (who had by this time moved from Brighton, Sussex to Hurstpierpoint, Sussex) by their son William Joseph Henry BATEMAN. The message mentions May, who would be Dorothy May BATEMAN, William’s sister and my great-grandmother.

The message pretty much speaks for itself, probably fairly typical of cards and letters sent to families back home. I love the comment that he would have written a letter but there was no paper. The photos mentioned were probably of his first son William Thomas Henry BATEMAN who was born on the 1st October 1906, sadly they don’t appear to have survived.

Ordering two BATEMAN certificates

9 Aug

Last night I ordered two certificates for my BATEMAN research, this is the first time since the price increase that I have ordered any, not really because of the price increase but because there weren’t any that I needed, now I have settled on two that I feel will help my research.

Birth certificate of William Joseph Henry BATEMAN

Although I have no doubts about who his parents were or where he was born, I would like to find out exactly where William was born. I know it was Brighton, Sussex, but even back in the 1880s that covered a wide area and several parishes.

If I can find the address, which was almost certainly his parent’s home then I should be able to find which parish they were living in, which should lead to a baptism record. If I can find William’s baptism then I will probably be able to find those of his two siblings who died as infants (and possibly their burials), thus saving me the cost of more certificates (or the possibility of ordering the wrong ones).

Marriage certificate of Henry BATEMAN and Dorothy Isabella KINGHORN

I already know roughly when my 2x great-grandparents married, it was Q4 1881, and I know it was in the Brighton Registration District, but once again I would like to find out some exact details. Once I know the parish I can look for baptisms of their children, because it might not be the same as that of William’s baptism.

There shouldn’t be any surprises with this certificate and the only new piece of information should be their address or addresses. I suspect they were probably already living together having both moved from Spratton in Northamptonshire, presumably when Dorothy became pregnant.

Both certificates should give me somewhere else to visit in Brighton and photograph. I already have one address in Preston (on the outskirts of Brighton) for them, 19 Yardley Street, so it will be good to be able expand my knowledge of their time in Brighton a little bit more.

Personal Genealogy Update: Week 32

8 Aug

Time is still proving to be an issue, there are just not enough hours in the day to do all the genealogy I would like. I am still working on reducing the number of distractions in my life, such as the number of emails I get each day (I am glad not to have Twitter or Facebook to worry about).

I can also see that my research has become much more focused, normally I would be switching from family to family on an almost daily basis, but this week I have been focused on the Australian BATEMANs. I didn’t actually do much new research this week, but I did find a newspaper announcement of the death of Annie Clark BATEMAN, which interestingly lists all her brothers and sisters and her husband, but not her children.

I have done some work on their addresses, and I am currently pulling together addresses from various sources (mainly Electoral Rolls) and updating the details on Family Historian. This is throwing up the age old problem of how do I record the place names from the Australian Electoral Rolls, how much detail do I record in the place name field and how much in the source citations?

My lack of knowledge of all things Australian is starting to become obvious, I need to do some background reading on Australian genealogy and perhaps even get hold of some old maps. I keep trying to relate things back to English genealogy, but I have no idea how similar the records are or whether the process is similar or not.

This week I am going to focus on places, decide how I am going to record all the information. For now I just need to make sure I have all the information recorded somewhere, whether I keep it in the same format or not in the future is a different question.

I also want to try and fill in some gaps in the English side of William Joseph Henry BATEMAN’s life. The first step will be to get copies of his parent’s marriage certificate and his birth certificate. Both of these should be in Brighton, Sussex so that will give me some more local information to follow up. I also need to see if I can untangle WJH’s naval career and find out what further information I might be able to discover, I probably need to get hold of a copy of a guide to naval ancestors from the library.

Australian Relations: What happened to the children of William Joseph Henry BATEMAN?

6 Aug

This is really where the trail starts to go cold. Limited access and privacy restrictions mean that details are thin on the ground, but that doesn’t mean I have given up hope of finding living relations in Australia.

Basically what I have discovered is that all three children of William Joseph Henry and Annie Clark BATEMAN were married, the two sons appear to have remained in the state of Victoria whilst the daughter and her husband moved to New South Wales.

  • Reginald Graham BATEMAN married Kathleen Frances HORBY in Victoria in 1933
  • Dorothy Marguerite BATEMAN married Leslie Herbert MARSHALL in Victoria in 1934
  • William Thomas Henry BATEMAN married Irene Elizabeth MCNAMARA in Victoria in 1940

So far I have only found evidence of one child from these three marriages, but I suspect that it is more to do with availability of records rather than the fact that there weren’t any more.

Dorothy Marguerite and her husband Leslie Herbert MARSHALL had a son named Alan Leslie MARSHALL on the 22nd January 1950. They were living in Crown Street, Sydney, New South Wales at the time and the birth was announced in The Sydney Morning Herald.

Australian Relations: The children of William Joseph Henry BATEMAN

5 Aug

This is another instalment in my ongoing series of articles on the life of William Joseph Henry BATEMAN and his family from Australia. This is an ongoing research project and if you can provide further information then please get in touch.

William Joseph Henry (WJH) BATEMAN and his wife Annie Clark BULL (nee MCCONACHY) were married on the 22nd April 1905 in Geelong, Victoria, Australia. So far I have only found details for three children, certainly only three appear to have survived into adulthood, and I have found no evidence to suggest that there were any other children.

William Thomas Henry BATEMAN (born 1906)

Their first child was a son, William Thomas Henry BATEMAN. According to his entry on the WW2 nominal roll, he was born on the 1st October 1906 in Melbourne, Australia. More specifically his birth registration index entry states that he was born in Carlton, Victoria.

His names all appear to be family names, but of course I can’t say for certain if this is the reason for the choice or whether it is just a coincidence.

William from his father William Joseph Henry BATEMAN
Thomas from his maternal grandfather Thomas MCCONACHY
Henry from his paternal grandfather Henry BATEMAN

Dorothy Marguerite BATEMAN (born 1909)

WJH and Annie’s next child was a daughter, Dorothy Marguerite BATEMAN, born in 1909. Her birth registration index entry gives her place of birth as Port Melbourne, Victoria.

The name Dorothy probably comes from WJH’s mother Dorothy Isabella BATEMAN (nee KINGHORN), but I have no idea where the name Marguerite comes from.

Reginald Graham BATEMAN (born c1913)

The third child was another son, Reginald Graham BATEMAN who was born around 1913. I don’t have his exact date or year of birth because the online indexes don’t cover 1913 yet. The information I have comes from the fact that Reginald was 56 years old when he died in 1969.

Interestingly Reginald was the name of Annie’s first husband, but it is hard to believe that she would have named a son after her dead husband. The name Graham was the surname of WJH’s maternal grandmother, but possibly both connections are coincidences.

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